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April 22, 2005 | Computers

I’m gonna get in trouble for this.

This is a commentary on Tom’s recent article entitled Not so new Tiger. Since Tom doesn’t have comments up on his new site yet I’ll add some notes here about this article. While some good points were raised there are a few other things to be considered. And, no, I’m not picking on you Tom, I just found a few things to comment on.


First, Spotlight technology is not new to Unix based systems. Only thing they did was, slapping together a nice GUI interface, and letting the GUI query the Index every time users type; sort of like Javascript’s OnChange. slocate, and locate are both Unix Admin’s favorite tools that "transparently" indexes the machine and stores them.

Yes, locate and slocate have been available for years via unix, and they are my default method for finding items on a unix system (I even set up cron scripts to run updatedb on a regular basis) it is far from being a spotlight equivalent. Spotlight will not only catalog the hard drive it will also catalog keywords from the first (I think) 256 words of the document. This includes plain text, word files, EXIF data and even PDF. And since they’ve moved Mail to being single file based instead of flat file database each one of your email messages will be accessible and cataloged by Spolight.


Superkaramba, and Karamba were around even before Apple’s Tiger was rumored to be developed. I am pretty sure that there are native-to-mac programs that allows you to run widgets on your Desktop.

Yep, that would be Konfabulator. I think something that would be a closer comparison to Karamba would be Geektool. Geektool is the "transparent" console that Karamba is. SuperKaramba looks to be more on par with Konfabulator and Dashboard, but seems to actually be closer to the APE hax add on for OSX that allows for hacking the finder to display items on top of the Finder interface.

Safari RSS

On this I agree. Nothing new in the back end, but new up front. The aggregation built into the OS and the look and feel make it a must have in my book. I use Sage in Firefox right now because it is simple, this looks to take it one step farther yet still keep RSS aggregation simpler than tools like NetNewsWire which are total overkill for how I like to read.


iChat AV has always been geared as a collaborative tool. This is a logical next step and to require a broadband connection is in now way able to be considered a downside. And on bandwidth – this will more than likely be used by businesses to collaborate on projects – I don’t know too many people that download torrents at work.


Not really a front end to crontab – more a front end to Applescript. And, while AppleScript can call shell scripts it isn’t really considered a command line tool. I think you were stretching on this one. Automator has much farther reaching abilites than crontab ever will. With scriptable applications being almost the norm in the Mac world you can do much more sophisticated things with Automator than possible with crontab. While some of the theory may be the same it is hardly a good comparison.

Quicktime 7

My gripe with this is that yet again we’ll have a $30 upgrade fee. OSX really costs $160 to those who use QT Pro. Porting this application is a mandatory task for Apple. There is no way they can expect QT to maintain any kind of market momentum if they don’t make it available to windows. This isn’t about keeping a good app to ourselves, this is about the greater good of making a superior video format readable by everybody.

.Mac Sync

My buddy will like this. He uses .Mac and this will help him keep in sync more easily and require less personal intervention. More of a click and go type thing.


I don’t see myself using this as it sounds like you won’t either. However, that doesn’t degrade the importance of its inclusion. Think about users with limited use of their hands or some other dexterity limiting factor – this is very important to them.


I personally am looking forward to this. While Apple is good at thinking different for the most part but Mail has been a bit of a mess up till this update. The interface update alone is worth it. The whole drawer thing was mediocre and just didn’t fit the way a normal person goes about navigating a UI.


I think when reviewing software one has to be very careful to evaluate features on their total merit, not on perceived value to the reviewer. The article brings up some interesting comparisons but hardly offers replacements or even competing technologies for the features reviewed.

Again, sorry Tom. I’m not out to pick on you I just felt this needed some attention.

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  • ahahaha. gotta love it! I encourage to tear my articles down, so no hurt feelings 😛 I think all my articles, ever since "Firefox is Overrated", are meant to be torn down. I just like to offer some critical articles just to flame guys like you. I love it when you dedicate a whole entry on me 🙂 thx. appreciate your comments on it.

    well, a few things.

    .Mac Sync, i don’t care about your buddy 😛

    VoiceOver, great, i don’t care about the people with disabilities.

    Mail, sweet, don’t care, i have gmail.

    Quicktime 7, great, I don’t want to pay $30 for upgrade.

    Automator, yea, it does include auto-applescript spiffyness.

    iChat AV, so yes. it’s not so practical atm, unless you have highspeed internet.

    safari rss, i should’ve skipped this one, i don’t like feeds.

    Dashboard, Konfabulator, yes, is the closest but I didn’t mention it because I was trying to give you something that was unknown to most people.

    Spotlight, sweet yes. they slapped a nice GUI together.

    I guess, I should’ve warned you about it. I wrote that one and will bash anything for the rest of Milk Basilica’s existence with not-so-solidd reasons. I am trying to give extreme viewpoints to my readers. Which is working! since you wrote about my entry on your site. For this article, I wanted something that went along with Longhorn news. Anyway, if people are confused, Shawn’s article is actually telling more of the truth in the positive light. I also want to point out that most of the stuff that Tiger included are nothing new. Nothing new as in, Apple didn’t invent those concepts and slapped a nice GUI together. I just wanted to clear that up with non-geeks and mac elitists. thx shawn.

    tom, April 22, 2005 6:49 pm | permalink

  • Fascinating Analysis.

    Shawn, April 22, 2005 7:11 pm | permalink

  • Shawn: "Nothing new in the back end, but new up front." I don’t agree with that, just see Dave Hyatt’s blog. But other than that, score 1 for you for bashing Tom ;D

    Tom: Heh. Drive it into the heart of that silly Mac elitist ;D

    Joey B., April 22, 2005 8:52 pm | permalink

  • I fail to see his argument as effective. He sounds like a 3 year old throwing a tantrum in the supermarket ’cause his mom bought him Chex instead of Count Chocula.

    He can play devil’s advocate all he wants… I realized what he was doing too late.

    Shawn Parker, April 22, 2005 10:25 pm | permalink

  • I *personally* like to say, I don’t have any problems with Tiger update. Rather, I think it’s great that Apple did a significant upgrade from Panther.

    tom, April 23, 2005 10:40 am | permalink

  • I think spotlight will be well worth the update. Especially since I’m always looking for where I used a certain piece of code to do something. Now I can search on a partial string accross my HD or another indexed OS X computer and find that little snippet.

    I’m also looking forward to Automator. I love Applescripts but have never been able to take the time to really learn them. Now I’ll be able to do most of the finder scripting that I want to do without having to become an AppleScript guru – I dig having scriptable folders but haven’t quite been able to do what I want with them yet.

    And I’m gonna love Safari RSS. Though I do use Sage in Firefox, I do that on Windows because Firefox on Mac feels like a turd. It runs fast and is plenty compliant but scrolls a fucked up with the scrolling trackpads on the new PowerBooks.

    All that and I’m a little kid when it comes to getting new stuff. If there’s something new out then I gotta have it. I’m probably Apple marketing’s wet dream.

    Shawn Parker, April 23, 2005 12:02 pm | permalink

  • You know. I fondly remember this one. I’m totally wrong on the Mail thing. Mail is my daily 365/24/7 application now.

    Tom, June 29, 2006 7:02 pm | permalink

  • Ha!

    I now look back on the Safari RSS and wonder what I was thinking – I obviously hadn’t used NetNews Wire at that point. I now use Vienna.

    Shawn, June 29, 2006 8:34 pm | permalink

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